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The first one always gets priced off the last one that rhymed

Search how to price a custom auger and Google hands you a directory of the companies that build them. Nobody writes about the quote itself. Here it is.

12 min read · updated August 2026

A man walks into the shop with a problem and no print. He needs a 10-inch auger at a length nobody sells, because the new bin sits four feet higher than the old one. Or he wants a squeeze chute that works left-handed because that is the side his alley comes in on. Or he has a grain cart with a cracked auger housing and wants to know what it will run to fix it before he decides whether to fix it.

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In every one of those conversations you have to produce a number, usually before he leaves, and you have never built the thing. There is no routing, no history, no lot to spread anything over. So the number comes from the last job that rhymed with this one — and that number came from the one before it, which came from a figure somebody wrote on a shop traveler in 2014 and nobody has questioned since.

That is the first-unit problem, and it is not a knowledge problem. Any shop that has been building short-line equipment for three generations knows what steel costs, what a hydraulic cylinder costs and how long it takes their own people to weld out a frame. What is missing is the arithmetic that turns those known things into a number for an unknown machine. That arithmetic is not hard. Almost nobody writes it down.

Break the machine into four things you already know how to price

You cannot estimate a machine you have never built. You can estimate steel, bought parts, machine time and hours on the floor, because you do all four every week. So stop looking at the machine and start looking at the four piles it comes apart into.

  • ·Steel. Count feet of tube, square feet of plate, feet of pipe and bar. Multiply by the published weight per foot or per square foot, then by today's price per pound from the supplier you will actually call. Buy weight, not finished weight — the drop is yours to pay for.
  • ·Bought parts. Cylinders, pumps, valves, hose, bearings, tires, gearboxes, hydraulic oil, paint, decals. This is a shopping list, and on a hydraulic machine it is frequently the biggest single bucket. Add a handling markup — you carried it, stocked it, and float the money until the machine ships.
  • ·Machining. Pins, bushings, clevises, sleeves, latch cams. Small numbers of parts, so setup dominates. Quote it exactly the way you quote any lathe or mill job, with setup as a lot charge and run time per piece.
  • ·Fab, weld and assembly. Layout, saw and plasma cutting, fit-up, weld out, grind, paint, plumb the hydraulics, bolt it together, test it. This is where the hours are, and on a first unit it is also where the estimate is worst.

There is a fifth bucket most shops leave out, which is the hours spent figuring out what the customer actually wants: the two phone calls, the sketch, the trip out to look at the bin. On a repeat production run that time is nothing. On a one-off it is real, and if you never put it in a quote you are giving it away on every custom job you take.

Run each bucket at the rate that bucket actually costs. A fab bay with a welder and a positioner does not cost what a CNC lathe costs, and neither costs what a man with a paint gun costs. Shops that use one blended rate for everything overprice their weld work and underprice their machining, then wonder why they win all the ugly jobs.

A hydraulic squeeze chute, priced start to finish

Here is the whole thing on one machine. A cattleman wants a hydraulic squeeze chute — left-hand headgate, hydraulic squeeze, hydraulic tailgate, sheeted sides, on a self-contained 12-volt power unit. You have built manual chutes. You have never built this one. Shop rates for the example: $95 an hour on the machining side, $85 in the fab bay, $70 for assembly and paint.

Steel first. You take off the frame from your own sketch: 140 feet of 2x2x3/16 square tube at 4.32 lb/ft is 605 lb; 60 feet of 2x3x3/16 rectangular tube at 5.59 lb/ft is 335 lb; 48 square feet of 3/16 plate at 7.65 lb/sq ft is 367 lb; 6 square feet of 1/2 plate at 20.4 lb/sq ft is 122 lb; 30 feet of 2-inch schedule 40 pipe at 3.65 lb/ft is 110 lb. That is 1,539 lb on the truck. At $0.88 a pound for the tube, $0.74 for the plate and $1.05 for the pipe, the steel is $1,304.56. About 140 lb of that leaves as drop, which comes back at $0.11 in the scrap bin — call it a $15.40 credit.

Bought parts next, and on this machine they are the heavy end: two 2-inch bore by 8-inch stroke cylinders at $185, one 2.5 by 16 at $265, a 1.5 hp 12-volt power unit with a 3-gallon reservoir at $1,150, a four-spool valve at $310, hose and fittings at $265, five gallons of oil at $85, pins and bushings and zerks at $140, headgate latch hardware at $95, a rubber floor mat at $120, paint and primer at $210, decals and a serial plate at $40. That is $3,050. At a 15% handling markup the line is $3,507.50.

Machining is small but not free. Fourteen turned pins and bushings on the lathe: 45 minutes of setup plus 12 minutes each is 213 minutes. Two latch plates and a cam on the mill: 30 minutes of setup plus 51 minutes of run is 81 minutes. Together that is 294 minutes, or 4.90 hours, at $95 — $465.50.

Then the floor. Layout and jigging for a machine that has never existed: 6.0 hours. Saw and plasma cutting including nesting the plate: 6.1 hours. Fit and tack the frame: 7.5. Weld out: 11.0. Grind and dress for paint: 4.5. That is 35.1 hours in the fab bay at $85, or $2,983.50. Blast, prime and paint 5.0 hours, plumb the hydraulics and hang the cylinders 6.5, final assembly 4.0, function test and leak check 2.5 — 18.0 hours at $70, or $1,260.00. The two phone calls, the sketch and the drive out to the corral come to 4.5 hours at $85, or $382.50.

BucketFirst unitSecond unit
Steel, 1,539 lb$1,304.56$1,304.56
Bought parts, $3,050 plus 15%$3,507.50$3,507.50
Machining at $95/h4.90 h — $465.504.40 h — $418.00
Fab, weld, fit at $85/h35.10 h — $2,983.5026.60 h — $2,261.00
Assembly, hydraulics, paint at $70/h18.00 h — $1,260.0015.50 h — $1,085.00
Engineering and customer time at $85/h4.50 h — $382.500.50 h — $42.50
Scrap credit-$15.40-$15.40
First-article allowance on labor15% — $763.735% — $190.33
Cost$10,651.89$8,793.49
Price at 30% markup$13,847.46$11,431.54

Two things in that table are worth stopping on. The first is the first-article allowance. On a machine you have never built, your hour estimate is wrong — not because you are careless but because you do not yet know where the fits will fight you. Fifteen percent on labor only, never on steel or bought parts, is a defensible way to carry that. It is not padding. It is the price of the fact that the number you just built has no history behind it.

The second is the right-hand column. The second chute costs $1,858 less to build and prices $2,416 lower — about 17% off — and not one dollar of that is steel or bought parts. It is 15.5 hours: the jig exists, the cut list exists, the fits are known, the customer conversation already happened. If you quote the second one at the first one's price, you are 17% high against the shop down the road who is on their fourth. If you quote the first one at the second one's price, you eat the difference and call it a bad job.

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Why the same chute costs $994 more in January than in April

Corn Belt work does not arrive evenly. It piles up ahead of planting and again ahead of harvest, and it goes quiet in the deep of winter and the middle of summer. Everybody in a shop in Iowa or eastern Nebraska knows this. What most shops do not do is put it in the price.

Here is why it belongs there. Your fixed costs — building, insurance, utilities, equipment notes, the office — do not care what month it is. Say they run $18,500 a month. Those dollars have to be carried by the hours your floor actually bills. In a slow January your six-man floor might bill 520 hours. In the two weeks before planting, with everybody on overtime and a chute waiting behind three planter repairs, it might bill 940.

MonthHours the floor billedFixed overhead per billed hourOverhead inside 62.5 chute hours
January520$35.58$2,223.75
April940$19.68$1,230.00
July690$26.81$1,675.63
October810$22.84$1,427.50

Same chute, same steel, same 62.5 hours of work. The overhead riding on it swings $993.75 between the slowest month and the busiest — 7% of the sell price, on a machine where you were arguing with yourself about a $200 handling markup.

The wrong lesson is to quote January work at January rates. Nobody buys that, and it punishes the customer for your calendar. The right one is to build your rate off the year — $222,000 of fixed cost across roughly 8,900 billed hours is $24.94 an hour — and then know which side of that line you are standing on when you quote. In April you are absorbing overhead faster than your rate assumes, which is the month to hold the price and quote honest lead times instead of discounting to get the work. In January you are absorbing it slower, which is the month to build your own line for stock, do the jigs and fixtures you keep putting off, and take the odd job at a thin number knowing that a thin number still beats an idle bay.

Track billed hours by month for one year and the seasonal shape of your own shop stops being folklore and becomes a number you can quote from. Most shops have this data sitting in their time cards and have never once added it up.

Repair loses more money than fabrication, and for one reason

Ask any shop that does both which side hurts, and it is repair. Not because the rate is wrong. Because on a fabrication job you know what is in front of you and on a repair you do not, and you cannot, until it is open.

A grain cart comes in with a cracked auger housing. You look at it in the yard, you have seen a dozen, and you say $1,400. In the good case you are right: 12 hours at $85 is $1,020, plus $180 in flighting and bearings, is $1,200 of cost and $200 of margin. But four times in ten it is not the good case. The gearbox is chewed up, the tube is cracked the full length under the paint, the flighting is worn thin the whole way. Now it is 22 hours and $520 in parts — $2,390 of cost against a $1,400 quote you already gave. That is a $990 loss.

Run those ten jobs: six at $200 up is $1,200; four at $990 down is $3,960. Net across ten repairs, minus $2,760 — an average of $276 lost every time one comes through the door. And because six of them looked fine, nobody in the shop believes repair is the problem. They think they had four bad jobs.

The fix is structural, not arithmetic. Quote the teardown as its own job — four hours at $85, $340, firm — and tell the customer plainly that at the end of it he gets a real number and a machine he can haul home either way. Then quote the repair from what is actually in front of you, with a not-to-exceed if he wants one. Customers who have been burned by an open-ended shop bill understand this immediately; it is the shops that are shy about proposing it.

  • ·Write down what you found on teardown, every time. Two seasons of that and you can tell a customer what a cracked housing usually turns into, with a number behind it.
  • ·Never quote a repair against a photo. A photo shows you paint.
  • ·If you must give a flat number, quote the bad case and say so. Losing the job at an honest price costs you nothing; winning it at $1,400 costs you $990.
  • ·Charge for the wash and the haul-in. A manure-packed chute or a bearing full of chaff is an hour of somebody's day before a wrench turns.

Countless options means countless quotes — unless you price the deltas

Short-line builders love the phrase "available with countless options," and it is usually literally true. Take a pull-type sprayer with three boom widths, three tank sizes, three rate-control packages, two tire packages, two hitches and fenders optional. That is 3 x 3 x 3 x 2 x 2 x 2 — 216 configurations. You have probably built eleven of them. The other 205 are first units, and every phone call is a fresh quote.

Nobody can cost 216 machines. What you can cost is one base machine and each option as a delta — the added steel, the added bought parts, the added hours — and then add. Cost the base once, cost each option once, and any configuration is arithmetic instead of a guess.

Configuration lineAdded costMostly
Base: 45 ft boom, 750 gal, manual rate$18,400
60 ft boom+$2,182.50Steel $640, parts $310, 14.5 fab hours at $85
90 ft boom+$5,940Steel, hours, and a heavier axle
1,000 gal tank+$1,150Bought part plus cradle steel
GPS rate control+$4,850Almost all bought parts
Section control+$9,600Bought parts plus 9 hours of wiring

A 60-foot boom, 1,000-gallon tank with GPS rate is then $18,400 plus $2,182.50 plus $1,150 plus $4,850 — $26,582.50 of cost, $34,025.60 at a 28% markup. That took thirty seconds and it is defensible line by line if the customer asks what the boom costs him.

One warning: some options change other options. The 90-foot boom needs a bigger pump and a heavier axle, so it is not a clean delta — it drags two other lines with it. Flag those pairs on your option list the first time you find one, because that is exactly the combination somebody orders eight months later when you have forgotten. This is the one part of option pricing that spreadsheets handle badly and that a real costing system — Spindlerate among them — is actually built for.

What to write down the day it ships

Everything above depends on one habit, and it is the habit small shops have the least of. When the machine goes out the door, somebody has to write down what it really took. Not the money. The hours and the pounds.

  • ·Actual hours by bucket — cut, fit, weld, machine, paint, assemble, test — not one total. A total tells you the job ran long. The split tells you which part of your estimate is broken.
  • ·Actual steel purchased and the drop, so next time you know your real buy weight rather than your finished weight.
  • ·The bought-parts list with prices and part numbers, including the two things you ran to town for.
  • ·What went wrong and how long it cost you: the fit that had to come apart, the cylinder with the wrong pin diameter, the weekend the paint would not flash.
  • ·A photo of the jig and a photo of the tack-up. On unit two those are worth more than any note.
  • ·The quantity: if you built two, say two, so the layout hours land where they belong instead of doubling.

The reason almost nobody does this is not laziness. It is that the person who knows the answer is standing in the fab bay with a hood on and the paperwork lives in the office, and by the time the paperwork catches up, the machine has been gone a week and the number is a shrug. If you want the data, collect it where the work happens — a column on a whiteboard, a clipboard hanging on the jig, a photo texted to the office at the end of the shift. Any of those beats an intention.

The payoff is the right-hand column of that chute table. A shop with records builds the second one for 47 hours and knows it. A shop without them builds it in 47 hours too, and still quotes 62.5, and either loses the job or takes it at a price that made the customer's decision easy. The steel is the same either way. The difference is entirely in what somebody bothered to write down.

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Common questions

How do you quote a custom farm machine you have never built before?
Break it into four buckets you already price every week — steel by weight at today's price, bought parts plus a handling markup, machining hours with setup as a lot charge, and fab-and-assembly hours at the rate that bay actually costs. Add the time spent figuring out what the customer wants, then add a first-article allowance of around 15% on labor only to cover the fact that your hour estimate has no history behind it. Mark up the total once, at the end.
Should the first unit cost more than the ones after it?
Yes, and by a lot. In the squeeze chute example the first unit takes 62.5 shop hours and the second takes 47 — layout, jigging, fit-up trouble and customer conversation are nearly all one-time. That is a $2,416 difference in price on the same machine. Quote the first one at the second one's price and you eat the setup; quote the second at the first one's price and you lose it to a shop that is already on their fourth.
How does seasonality change what a farm equipment job costs?
Fixed overhead is a monthly bill that gets carried by however many hours your floor bills that month. A shop with $18,500 a month in fixed cost absorbs $35.58 per hour in a slow 520-hour January and $19.68 in a busy 940-hour April — $994 of difference inside one 62.5-hour machine. Build your rate off the whole year, then use the busy months to hold price and the slow months to build stock, jigs and fixtures.
Why do repair jobs lose money when fabrication jobs do not?
Because you cannot see inside the machine until it is apart. A repair that looks like a $1,400 job six times out of ten turns into a $2,390 job the other four, which averages out to a loss on every one that comes through the door. Quote the teardown as its own firm-price job, then quote the repair against what you actually found.
How do you price a machine with dozens of options without quoting each one from scratch?
Cost the base configuration once, then cost each option as a delta — the added steel, added bought parts and added hours — so any combination becomes base plus the deltas. Flag options that change other options, like a longer boom that also forces a bigger pump and a heavier axle, because those are not clean adds and they are the ones somebody orders months later.

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